tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post7485619075787198690..comments2024-01-05T05:02:20.353+00:00Comments on CRYPTOZOOLOGY ONLINE: Still on the Track: LINDSAY SELBY: The Giant AnacondaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-34062613143227216532010-02-19T06:40:09.804+00:002010-02-19T06:40:09.804+00:00Dr. Dirksen's website is very good and I recom...Dr. Dirksen's website is very good and I recommend it - and his books too - to everyone interested in Anacondas. He was a speaker at our cryptozoology-conference last year about giant snakes and it was very interesting. Please note also that non of the (real) pictures shows a snake exceeding 9 m.<br /><br />I'am open minded to a length of 12 m and waiting for your source. Anyway in view what I said before I'am sceptical.Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01408330385562338941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-56951147432686558832010-02-18T15:46:40.457+00:002010-02-18T15:46:40.457+00:00I stand corrected on "Fragrant Flower", ...I stand corrected on "Fragrant Flower", the snake I cited. There was a Retic Python captured live a few years ago that was over 40 feet, but I am still looking for the reference. I saw a video of it being handled by a white man and a bunch of villagers. Meanwhile, here is an excellent source for many giant snake photos (translated). <br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/y9og8lm<br /><br />(Note that the one photo with the giant snake wrapped around poles is from the movie ANACONDA and is NOT real.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835338954827440487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-7847562923328311522010-02-18T13:48:30.171+00:002010-02-18T13:48:30.171+00:00According to the sources I gave before actually th...According to the sources I gave before actually there are doubts about the record for the python you mentioned. <br />There's a claim that it has been measured and there's a bad picture (of a camera of 1912!). So this record is in doubt similiar to the long standing so called Dunn-Lamon-Record. An accurate, exactly documented and repeatable measurement is indispensable for the question about the record length. This is true for the mostly unstretched skin of a python at the Reptile Discovery Center at National Zoological Park in Washington with an estimated length between 8,65 und 9,1 m (Bellosa, Henry / Dirksen, Lutz / Auliya, Mark: „Faszination Riesenschlangen - Mythos, Fakten und Geschichten“, München: BLV-Verlag 2007).Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01408330385562338941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-66051426330365602462010-02-18T12:45:47.381+00:002010-02-18T12:45:47.381+00:00The Guinness Book of World Records lists the longe...The Guinness Book of World Records lists the longest captured snake as a 9.75m (32ft) reticulated python found on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi in 1912. The heaviest is a 182.76kg Burmese python in Illinois, US.<br />As they check their records thoroughly we can presume this is true. There is analysis of the photos of the giant snakes in Tim Dinsdale's book " The Leviathans" which you might all find interesting.Tabitcahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00685620846174596978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-5490953220095746472010-02-18T06:31:23.836+00:002010-02-18T06:31:23.836+00:00Well... Maybe you should do your homework. This vi...Well... Maybe you should do your homework. This video (I cant watch it under your link but it is anywhere on the web: http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=fragrant%20flower%20indonesia&oe=utf-8&q=indonesia+giant+snake&view=0#) shows "Fragrant Flower" of which her owner claims that the length is 14.85m. Unfortunately John Aglionby of The Guardian travelled to Indonesia to measure... This snake therefore is between 6.5 and 7m. Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/jan/05/animalwelfare.indonesiaMarkushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01408330385562338941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-24924535202282572782010-02-17T19:27:41.865+00:002010-02-17T19:27:41.865+00:00Giant snakes are no myth. A 49 foot reticulated py...Giant snakes are no myth. A 49 foot reticulated python was caught in Indonesia a year or so ago, and is alive to this very day. <br /><br />Here is a link to the MSNBC video about it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/3846913#3846913Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835338954827440487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-36390813961564673382010-02-16T22:55:42.192+00:002010-02-16T22:55:42.192+00:00"So could a snake really be that big? It is p..."So could a snake really be that big? It is possible as snakes have been found 23 feet ( about 7.6 metres) long and who is to say that there are not large versions out there. I would love to see one, but not up close! Snakes are fascinating creatures."<br /><br />Short answer: no. And as far as "who can say", well, it's science. Can you jump 100 feet into the air, hold your breath for a week or grow to be 50 feet tall? No, you can't- because the natural physics and biology on this planet simply don't allow it.<br />The largest fossil snake was actually less than 50 feet long. As others have pointed out, finding one large anaconda does not automatically infer that one can find a 130 foot anaconda.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603104535621867638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-50483161948157792932010-02-16T16:04:28.446+00:002010-02-16T16:04:28.446+00:00I think it is great that people take the time to ...I think it is great that people take the time to comment and offer their opinions. Thanks everyone. Rich I have emailed one of the photos, the second one from 1949, to Jon to pass on to you or post on the blog.It's the only one I have access to.I am sure it will be on the internet somewhere as well.Tabitcahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00685620846174596978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-59417386914548479812010-02-16T01:13:21.692+00:002010-02-16T01:13:21.692+00:00When reading your recital of reports, I couldn'...When reading your recital of reports, I couldn't help but think how many of those serpents died or were already dead. I don't think it is at all illogical to suggest that truly gigantic specimens of any given species would be far more common in early historical times, if ever, especially when it can be assumed age-size would be very slow to accumulate. This would apply to certain fish and invertebrates, as well as reptiles.<br /><br />Another comment: I had been given to understand that a famous South American "ape" (I forget the specific name) was the only clear photograph of a cryptid. Are the anaconda newspaper photographs you mention on a substandard level? It seems to me they would be useful to see.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09091246964133101706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-47338819862466270302010-02-15T12:25:01.371+00:002010-02-15T12:25:01.371+00:00(Sorry if this is a double-post)
There are huge a...(Sorry if this is a double-post)<br /><br />There are huge anacondas out there with lengths of eight meters and more, but they are not frequent and they are the exception. There are several factors in the growth of giant snakes playing a role like for example the genes. There are also external, enviromental factors such as sufficient food and retreat opportunities, little or no injury, disease or parasites and so on. If all these factors given together with a higher age only then has a snake the potential to grow up to a record individual. But even under these optimal conditions the body of a giant serpent has limits! Bringing food into body mass decreases with age rapidly so it would need for a greater increase in length a vastly larger quantity of food than in youth - and of course a corresponding processing of the food itself! Since this seems physiologically impossible only a higher age remains. But with puberty the growth decreases greatly. Data analysis has shown that even abnormally large and already old animals grow only a few centimeters a year. Looking at the maximum age of anacondas (33 years in captivity and between 28 and 30 years at best in the wilderness) offers no basis for the reports on 'Superanacondas'. So the zoological reality stands opposed to the fairy tales mentioned above.<br /><br />Sources:<br /><br />Bellosa, Henry / Dirksen, Lutz / Auliya, Mark: „Faszination Riesenschlangen - Mythos, Fakten und Geschichten“, München: BLV-Verlag 2007<br />Murphy, John C. / Henderson, Robert W.: “Tales of giant snakes – a historical natural history of Anacondas and Pythons”, Malabar (USA): Krieger Publishing Company 1997Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01408330385562338941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-27808189530921063372010-02-15T12:24:39.100+00:002010-02-15T12:24:39.100+00:00There are huge anacondas out there with lengths of...There are huge anacondas out there with lengths of eight meters and more, but they are not frequent and they are the exception. There are several factors in the growth of giant snakes playing a role like for example the genes. There are also external, enviromental factors such as sufficient food and retreat opportunities, little or no injury, disease or parasites and so on. If all these factors given together with a higher age only then has a snake the potential to grow up to a record individual. But even under these optimal conditions the body of a giant serpent has limits! Bringing food into body mass decreases with age rapidly so it would need for a greater increase in length a vastly larger quantity of food than in youth - and of course a corresponding processing of the food itself! Since this seems physiologically impossible only a higher age remains. But with puberty the growth decreases greatly. Data analysis has shown that even abnormally large and already old animals grow only a few centimeters a year. Looking at the maximum age of anacondas (33 years in captivity and between 28 and 30 years at best in the wilderness) offers no basis for the reports on 'Superanacondas'. So the zoological reality stands opposed to the fairy tales mentioned above.<br /><br />Sources:<br /><br />Bellosa, Henry / Dirksen, Lutz / Auliya, Mark: „Faszination Riesenschlangen - Mythos, Fakten und Geschichten“, München: BLV-Verlag 2007<br />Murphy, John C. / Henderson, Robert W.: “Tales of giant snakes – a historical natural history of Anacondas and Pythons”, Malabar (USA): Krieger Publishing Company 1997Markushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01408330385562338941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16505569.post-57312112964776377582010-02-15T11:08:07.090+00:002010-02-15T11:08:07.090+00:00All right, I can be generous and allow you that yo...All right, I can be generous and allow you that you might have a snake 50, 60 or even 75 feet long (That's really pushing it)<br /><br />But 150 or 200 feet long, or even larger? That has gone out of the realm of biology and into mythology. A whalesized snake could not crawl out on land, and it becomes a beached whale if it tries. It would suffocate under its own weight.<br /><br />Another factor has been hinted at from the first: some of the sightings are "Sea-serpent" sightings including maned animals and string-of-buoys reports (Tim Dinsdale and Bernard Heuvelmans both mention such reports)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com